Materials needed and advice

Submitted by abl1111 on Sun, 08/22/2010 - 16:24
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Been away for a few years; marriage, house, babies. I restored FS # 877 to MINT (12) years ago and a few years after that got knocked down in a fast moving, ocean squall and one side of the boat was smashed to smithereens against a dock - lost my sails etc... Think large Great White ate 60% of one side of the boat... Needless to say, it was very disheartening.

Recently, I have been sailing on a buddy's Scot and have set my sites on mine again. She has been safely stored all these years.

I have already done all the structural repairs myself, now she just needs a little fairing and then a paint job...

Being out of the loop, a lot has changed since I was sailing the FS and ordering materials from Erik and Dee, via faxes and phone calls.

I want to re-install floatation under the seats - I removed all the old styrofoam stuff, it's all intact, but was hoping to replace with the blue, dock building foam - anyone have an opinion on this change and a line as to where I can buy it for the best price ?

Also, I have the older, non-anodized aluminum mast/winch halyard 'spools' that have oxidized to useless. Is there a way to replace these with newer ones ?

Sails - I see a lot more options about loose and tight fit set-ups. I have no idea if I have a loose or tight rig, or if I really care which I end up with. I just sail and don't race anyone but the wind. How can the different rigs / sails be ID ?

Thank you...

sawyerspadre

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 15:08

I think it is mainly because such a setup would be more work to install and would have to ship in a big box.

The bag is easy to ship, and easy to install.

Just my guess,

Phil

Phil Scheetz
FS 4086

Anonymous (not verified)

Mon, 08/23/2010 - 16:05

Actually from a refit I agree with you. Plus it may need to be in two parts to get past the stanchion. However on new boats I think it would be a good idea if the class allows it to have the foam. It won' deflate or get punctured with a spin pole. It can be glass strapped like the foam under the seat. I would believe it will be less expensive too.
Dave

karafiath

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 08:19

1. I beleive the class rules require a minimum amount of floatation at the bow. I plan to install blue foam when I get around to it. An inflatable bag per se is not required
2. The extruded polystyrene blue foam and the pink foam is the same stuff and you can get them at the major hardware stores , Home Depot etc, sold as insulating foam.
3. I put a small piece of pink foam and submerged it in a bottle for a few weeks. There was no sogginess when I pulled out the sample.
4. You can glue the pink (or blue) foam with Gorilla glue
5. The pink and also the blue foam is compatible with epoxy resin, not with polyester.
Godd luck FS3512

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FS5516

Tue, 08/24/2010 - 15:52

The bow bag is required for those who plan to race sanctioned events such as the mw's, nac's and districts.

Mark
FS 5516
Don't Panic

Andy Carrier

Wed, 08/25/2010 - 05:18

Per S-11 8. Buoyancy
In addition, effective January 1, 2009, the boat shall include a nominal 4.8 cubic feet of buoyancy to facilitate the rescue of a swamped boat. This buoyancy shall be composed of a choice of an air bag, rigid noncommunicating air cell foam plastics or air tanks and shall be attached inside the hull at the bow as low and far forward as possible to provide a nominal 300 pounds of buoyancy when submerged in water. It shall be securely fastened so as not to become dislodged when submerged.(November 2007) (See also CMR #29 & 79)

NOTICE FROM THE CHIEF MEASURER
As pointed out in the President Letter the requirement for bow bags and transom ports was added to the Specifications as the requirement by a vote of the FSSA Membership at the 2007 NAC. This change is mandatory for all boats effective on 1/1/2009. Boats that intend to participate in the 2009 Midwinter Championship, the North American Championship and the Wife Husband Championship need to make a special effort to install these items, as they will be checked at these events and others. These venues are known to be windy and installation of this equipment will facilitate rescue and recovery in the event of a capsize. The kits for these items, including the appropriate hole saw, will be available from Flying
Scot Inc. at these regattas for installation on site. Please note that the builder of the Flying Scots has installed these as standard equipment on new boats manufactured since 1992.
Bob Neff, Chief Measurer

Somewhat confusing, but I believe the intent is to have 300 lbs of buoyancy. Maybe Bob Neff will clarify?

Andy
FS 4957

abl1111

Sun, 09/05/2010 - 09:42

FLOATATION:

I was hoping to put some of the blue 'dock floatation' instead of the 1960's ( literally ) styro-foam.

WINCH ASSEMBLY:

Also, anyone have info on restoring the aluminum spools on the older main and jib halyard winch assembly's ? Mine need to be replaced...

SAIL FIT:

Lastly, how can I determine what 'fit' sails I have ? My sails were trashed and I bought a new set of used ones online. I'm assuming my boat is rigged for cruising / loose fit - but don;t know what the cut is on these replacement sails...

sawyerspadre

Mon, 09/06/2010 - 18:43

Do you know who the sailmaker was for your replacements? If so, I would call them. They can tell you how to set the rig.

Also Harry at Flying Scot Inc, can probably give you good advice.

Phil Scheetz
FS 4086

sawyerspadre

Wed, 09/08/2010 - 17:30

I always wondered whether these measurements also applied to sails that were not made by North Sails.

Anybody know?

Phil Scheetz
FS 4086