Dyneema halyards

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  • #6584
    Dmain9348
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    Have there been any discussions about allowing dyneema line in place of the wire halyards on a Scot?  I assume it would still fit on the spools of the winch box?

    #13718
    sawyerspadre
    Participant

    I haven’t heard any.  I ask what would the benefit be?  Is Dyneema lower in stretch, than a steel cable?
    I would think they would cost more.
    Not trying to be negative, but it would be interesting to hear what you think the benefit would be,  The current steel cables are pretty durable, and not very expensive to replace.
     

    #13719
    FS5516
    Participant

    I don’t even think they make anything that small.

    #13726
    Chris Edwards
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    They actually do make it very small.
    Amsteel Blue:
     

     
    DIAM. inch
    CIRC. inch
    WEIGHT PER 100 FT. lbs
    AVG. STRENGTH lbs
    MIN. STRENGTH lbs
     
    DIAM. mm
    CIRC. mm
    WEIGHT PER 100 M kg
    AVG. STRENGTH kg
    MIN. STRENGTH kg
     
    ISO 2307 STRENGTH metric tons
     

     
    7/64
    5/16
    0.3
    1,600
    1,400
     
    2.5
    7.5
    0.45
    730
    650
     
    0.73
     

     
    1/8
    3/8
    0.5
    2,500
    2,300
     
    3
    9
    0.74
    1,100
    1,000
     
    1.1
     

     
    5/32
    15/32
    0.75
    4,000
    3,600
     
    4
    12
    1.1
    1,800
    1,600
     
    1.8
     

     
    3/16
    9/16
    1
    5,400
    4,900

    #13727
    Chris Edwards
    Participant

    Dyneema is lighter, stronger and just as cheap as steel wire.  Easier on the hands and very easy for the common sailer to splice and rig over steel wire.

    #13728
    FS5516
    Participant

    If you are planning on installing them and race at FSSA events, it’s possible it will be deem not class legal. The Handbook specifies that the halyards are to be wire.

    #13729
    sawyerspadre
    Participant

    The steel halyard might weigh 2 pounds.  The Dyneema halyard might weigh 8 ounces, and is not likely class legal.  The boat weighs like 700 pounds and the people weigh 300-400.  Seems like a miniscule benefit.
    Sandy Douglass was very careful about the Scot, to not create an incremental arms race, in an ever changing spec for the boat.  What’s next a carbon mast and boom?  BTW, they would be lighter!
    If you feel this is an important improvement in the Scot, you may want to ask FS Inc, if they think it’s good idea, and then craft a request for a Chief Measurers Ruling, which is a formal process for ruling on whether items are class legal.  It usually applies to items that are not already specifically spelled out.  The halyards are already specified as wire.

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