Brass Rings on shrouds

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  • #6178
    admin
    Keymaster

    I have removed the brass rings on my shrouds because I saw no use for them. I have observed that newer boats with race packages have them. I am guessing that the spinnaker halyard can be clipped here however most folks seem to tie the guy, sheet and halyard to the sail. Do they need to remain for class rules?
    Thanks for the information.
    Mr Dave

    #12967
    wojtase1
    Participant

    The rings are there for a pretty good reason. When you take the chute down you double over the halyard and pull it through the ring and cleat it to a spinnaker cleat that is usually behind the shroud. Pulling it through the ring keeps the halyard out of the way until you want to raise the chute. When you pull on the halyard to raise the chute it will pull out of the block and through the ring as you yank on the halyard.

    I do not think that the rules require them.

    Contact: Eric Wojtaszek
    Quannapowitt Yacht Club Flying Scot Fleet Captain
    2010 North East District Govenor
    4224 – Coping Skills

    #12973
    glennw_fs
    Participant

    quote:[i]Originally posted by wojtase1[/i]
    [br]The rings are there for a pretty good reason. When you take the chute down you double over the halyard and pull it through the ring and cleat it to a spinnaker cleat that is usually behind the shroud. Pulling it through the ring keeps the halyard out of the way until you want to raise the chute. When you pull on the halyard to raise the chute it will pull out of the block and through the ring as you yank on the halyard.

    I do not think that the rules require them.

    Contact: Eric Wojtaszek
    Quannapowitt Yacht Club Flying Scot Fleet Captain
    2010 North East District Govenor
    4224 – Coping Skills

    Eric,

    If I understand your post it means the spinnaker halyard runs along the shroud when not hoisted. Correct? If so doesn’t this interfere with your shroud telltales?

    Glenn
    FS 5919
    Nockamixon Sail Club

    Nockamixon Sail Club

    #12974
    wojtase1
    Participant

    Interesting point. Yes the halyard would come down along the shroud. I have honestly never noticed if it interferes. I think that I might leave enough slack in the halyard that it stays out of the way but that does not seem logical either. I will have to look at it next time and get back to you.

    Contact: Eric Wojtaszek
    Quannapowitt Yacht Club Flying Scot Fleet Captain
    2010 North East District Govenor
    4224 – Coping Skills

    #12975
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Found my answer!
    Looking through some of the information Harry furnishes with new scots the rings are used for securing the Spinnaker halyard. It appear that they are there as standard equipment whether you buy a boat with or without spinnaker. So if you bought a family boat and added a spinnaker, y ou would secure the halyard here and hoist from either side. It is the same with the cleats on the wood mast support used to secure the other end and also with the fitting on the mast. So I guess you call these standard options that are not deleted if you buy a radical race rig or other.

    #13072
    JHS
    Participant

    So you hoist the spin up and tie it off in the ring? Interesting.

    #13073
    fssa-admin
    Keymaster

    You don’t tie it.  You double it and cleat it on the spinaker cleat that may or may not be nearby.  Tying it would make it difficult to untie it. 

    #13079
    sawyerspadre
    Participant

    I think the spin halyards originally had a hook on both ends. When sailing with three, the hook would be taken off the ring and connected to a ring on the head of the spinnaker.

    The forward crew would unhook the other end when it was time to hoist, and then they would cleat on the wood cleat on the stanchion.

    Then came fancy cleats on the coaming, and then all the lines led aft as we see today.

    This largely came about as two-up racing became more common.

    Phil

    #13080
    JHS
    Participant

    I see, thanks.  (Phil’s comments noted as well).

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